I've never heard a single scientist talk about the collapse (of a wave function) in any meaningful way, and I've talked to a lot of them. Professors will say that the observer is somehow connected to what is observed, but accepting this idea does not change their basic outlook--that matter is objective "stuff" composed of objective particles. They talk about "discovering" particles without realizing that particles are not discovered; they are created by acts of imagination. What seems most amazing is that the meta-reality of physics is so useful despite the flights of intellectual fancy necessary to conjure it.
I suspect that most scientists imagine that there are particles "composing" matter that sometimes act like waves and sometimes act like particles, but I'll bet there aren't a hundred scientists in the country who realize that in the double slit experiment something fundamentally unknowable is doing something fundamentally unknowable. Ha ha. Books like "The Matter Myth" are written to explain that there is no such thing as matter, but I think most scientists compartmentalize that idea as hypothetically true, and then ignore all of the existential implications. After all, in order to "do physics" one must buy into the standard model in order to even think about the issues. Very few scientists are even philosophers, much less mystics. LOL
The Bell's Theorem thingy is similar. If you read about the issue in various books, it is clear that almost no one has any clear idea of what it means, existentially, and even fewer appreciate the awesomeness of what it means. Most scientists do not think that they are integrally-connected to stars or subatomic particles located a million light-years from earth!
My brother, who is a major television network science reporter, once asked me, "How could anyone do physics with your non-dual outlook on things?" I told him that I had no idea. If a person didn't buy into the basic idea that matter is composed of subatomic particles, how would s/he interpret what happens in a physics lab?
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eerily serially bounce and stick
flashing aloopidly goonery glow
ribbledy hibbledy sturdically trow....
I suspect that most scientists imagine that there are particles "composing" matter that sometimes act like waves and sometimes act like particles, but I'll bet there aren't a hundred scientists in the country who realize that in the double slit experiment something fundamentally unknowable is doing something fundamentally unknowable. Ha ha. Books like "The Matter Myth" are written to explain that there is no such thing as matter, but I think most scientists compartmentalize that idea as hypothetically true, and then ignore all of the existential implications. After all, in order to "do physics" one must buy into the standard model in order to even think about the issues. Very few scientists are even philosophers, much less mystics. LOL
The Bell's Theorem thingy is similar. If you read about the issue in various books, it is clear that almost no one has any clear idea of what it means, existentially, and even fewer appreciate the awesomeness of what it means. Most scientists do not think that they are integrally-connected to stars or subatomic particles located a million light-years from earth!
My brother, who is a major television network science reporter, once asked me, "How could anyone do physics with your non-dual outlook on things?" I told him that I had no idea. If a person didn't buy into the basic idea that matter is composed of subatomic particles, how would s/he interpret what happens in a physics lab?
slithery gimbels trove and flick
eerily serially bounce and stick
flashing aloopidly goonery glow
ribbledy hibbledy sturdically trow....
