...are both thought-generated illusions. The park bench exercise (I recommend a comfortable chair) can be illuminating. Sit down, remove all concious volition, and see what happens. Make no effort to either remain or to get up. Just be still and watch.
Rajneesh did this by walking up to a street corner on his university campus in India (when he was a young philosophy professor)and stopped to see which way the body would move if "he" didn't direct it.
Socrates supposedly did the same thing. He was walking somewhere and suddenly stopped and remained standing motionless all day. People came and sat around on the ground watching him out of curiosity. I think Rajneesh is the source of this story, so I don't know if it's in the Plato dialogues or elsewhere. Near the end of the day Socrates walked off as if nothing had happened.
Rajneesh did this by walking up to a street corner on his university campus in India (when he was a young philosophy professor)and stopped to see which way the body would move if "he" didn't direct it.
Socrates supposedly did the same thing. He was walking somewhere and suddenly stopped and remained standing motionless all day. People came and sat around on the ground watching him out of curiosity. I think Rajneesh is the source of this story, so I don't know if it's in the Plato dialogues or elsewhere. Near the end of the day Socrates walked off as if nothing had happened.